Surviving R. Kelly: Lisa VanAllen Speaks Out (Episode 2) | Lifetime

Kathy Bates
Kathy Bates

First off I'm glad she's speaking out. I imagine she feels much better getting these things off her chest and she's helping build a case against R Kelly just by telling her story, whether she was abused or not. But what she's describing sounds like a bdsm relationship, like something they would've come to an agreement on at one point or another. She agreed to do a lot of things. And she was of legal age. Other stories such as R Kellys ex wife's really moved me, but every woman's story is just as important, for the case.

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Legend Love
Legend Love

One thing I'm not defending him but some of these girls go to him wasted or I'm drugs and yes that is his fault for even touching them but why did you think to speak about it now since some of them of them know they would get money or they want to ruin his career but if you were that distraught by this then why would you wait you could've talk to someone that you trust and if that could work write down your feeling and throw it away bc with that in your life you can't ever get over it.but at least try not to Remember it and again I don't agree at all with him and I'm only 13 and know what you've gone thru bc I understand it from a woman's pov.

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x x
x x

"One who winks his eyes to plot perversities, One who compresses his lips, is bent on evil." Watching the videos of allegations against rkelly one can notice that all of the woman wink with their eyes and especially his former wife compresses her lips at all times when telling they were abused … ALL LIES!

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Narangarav Purev
Narangarav Purev

Why is nobody talking about Halle Calhoun, who was publicly his girlfriend not too long ago?? Does she have to say anything?

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Lemon Sheep
Lemon Sheep

Jesus. Christ.

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zeroeman
zeroeman

But he sang "U REMIND ME OF MY JEEP"😝😝😝😝

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joshua parker
joshua parker

I feel so sorry for her, where are her scars from the restraints that kept her from walking away?

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Ten Thirty
Ten Thirty

R Kelly is most likely a liberal celebrity so they won’t touch him

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DeenScene
DeenScene

Black people take this l

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Kartik Aman Saraf
Kartik Aman Saraf

This show was easily the hardest show I’ve ever had to watch IN MY LIFE!

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swagg bee
swagg bee

Y’all crazy in these comments

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Andrew Delgado
Andrew Delgado

She looks different without the pee on her face.

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Ms Dee
Ms Dee

I watched the entire show and of all the women Lisa and Sparkle crying was fake. I didn't see any tears like with some of the others. It seemed staged. This woman (Lisa) is just as quilty as R. Kelly for having a threesome with the 14 year old.

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Jordan 90
Jordan 90

All the people that allowed him to do this including his team failed this Young’s girls aswell and are just as guilty as Robert kelly is they should all be thrown the key and locked up for the rest of there life’s

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kappakumplete
kappakumplete

She knew 100% that the girl she had the threesome with was underage. It was impossible not to know. This woman is a victim but she did wrong as well.

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jason johnson
jason johnson

It's obvious that Kelly is a sick man....but what is sick to me as well is how all these girls parents didn't care about there daughters....imagine how many women would have been saved if their parents were parents

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Ima Dumfuq
Ima Dumfuq

This is such old news “sheeple”.

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CAPTAIN
CAPTAIN

She just want money

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Paris Esco
Paris Esco

Iike you say you thought you was his girlfriend

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Slime Beats
Slime Beats

Any wise women would get out of such a situation fast. I don’t wanna here all this ! You put yourself in this position ! You wanted his $ ... now you complain about it ! You could of called the police 🚔 and ran away . But nooo money is the motivation! And honestly R jelly you like little girls and boys I don’t wanna here it ...

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J ‘Mar
J ‘Mar

This why R.Kelly wanted girls to pee in the bucket URINE LOVE SPELL VODOO In European -- especially Italian -- folk magic, as well as in hoodoo, urine is used in women's coffee and tea love spells, as a quick substitute for menstrual blood, when the intention is to tie or bind a lover. This is particularly common among girls to young or women too old to have menstrual periods, and among pregnant women and those who for any other reason don;t menstruate. Men also can put urine in a drink to tie a woman, although this is not mentioned so commonly. In hoodoo, and in polite Southern speech generally, urine is often called "chamber lye" or "water." No matter what you call it, one of the oldest root work traditions is for a male gambler to have a female lover urinate on his mojo bag or lucky hand while he is at play. If the gambler and his partner can retire to an alley to perform the act while the game is in progress, so much the better. This is called "feeding the mojo," and the use of the word "feed" is, of course an indicative link to African magico-religious thought, from whence this custom derives. (Lodestones are also "fed" in hoodoo -- with magnetic sand.) Women players rarely ask a man to urinate on their mojo hands, so, for whatever reason, it is female urine that is considered lucky in this case. Chamber lye can be a vulnerable spot in a man or woman's periphery. An enemy who gets your "water" can cause grave damage to you by stopping it up in a bottle with red pepper and Graveyard Dirt. The result will be urinary tract problems, ranging from cystitis and nephritis to prostatitis and kidney stones. The only way to take off such a condition is to find the bottle and destroy it, letting the urine run out into a fire. Conversely, chamber lye has its strengths -- a man can use his own urination to cure a case of impotence that was put on him through magic. Peeing on a knife blade and letting the pee run on the ground is one of many methods for accomplishing this. Another is to urinate into a red ants nest. Women who have had their natures hoodooed can pee into a running river as they call on the river to take off the jinx. I should also add a quick comment on the term "chamber lye" for readers who are not native English speakers: Chamber: A chamber means a room, so in the old days a bedroom was called a bed chamber. With no indoor plumbing, you went outdoors to pee in an outhouse, but the first pee of the morning, before dressing or washing up, most folks didn't want to go out, so they peed in a covered container called a chamber pot, which was carried out later. Lye: This is an old Anglo Saxon word meaning any strong alkaline liquid. Most of the time nowadays you'll hear the word lye in reference to making soap at home, where one good source of lye is potash -- literally pot ashes. You make potash or pot ash lye by concentrating water that has run through the ashes collected from the fire under your cooking pots. Since there is no one chemical formula for lye; in common parlance it can be any really strong alkaline solution. So a polite word for urine used to be "chamber lye" -- an alkaline solution obtained in the bed chamber. So... "chamber pot" plus "pot ash lye" equals "chamber pot lye" -- which is shortened to "chamber lye"!

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Black Mamba
Black Mamba

Mayweather will be next, this metoo campaign will take even more big names down yet. If I was Floyd I'd be worried

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01987 N?a
01987 N?a

R.kelly did nothing wrong he is a BAMF

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Cortez Brown
Cortez Brown

I can't stand a woman who can't tell a story without crying that make me not believe you cuz I know women cry to make you feel sorry or believe there story

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Ricky Buckner
Ricky Buckner

If this is true he deserves the hands!

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nyl wan
nyl wan

So the only nonsonsensual is the sextape... why not leave r. Kelly if they already fell so uncomfortable in his side??

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Bobby B
Bobby B

Drip Drip Drip.

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Marcus Knight
Marcus Knight

Definitely could’ve walked away! But yes it is wrong to sleep with under age girls but 2 wrongs don’t make a right they knew exactly what they was doing!! When I was 15 I was asked to try a hallucinate drug... but I said no because I knew right from wrong and I didn’t have a gun forced to my head!!! I guess my question is why make a whole documentary on this just go to your local high school and the girls talk to older man all the time these things go on every day un noticed let’s be real

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Warjormodi
Warjormodi

Innocent until proven guilty

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zimvader25
zimvader25

Honest question for all the people calling these 14-17 yr olds "children", here: if these same "children" were talking about getting gender reassignment, what would be the tone of your comments here? Would you still maintain that they dont know any better and can't/shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions or would your tune change?

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Cornelia Marin
Cornelia Marin

Why is always taking so long for these women to speak up? Why these women fall for those sick games?

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Raw2929 Will
Raw2929 Will

Nothing going one for u that y u do this interview Desperate for money

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Zionslayer1
Zionslayer1

You say no, but those thighs are saying YES!!!

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Zionslayer1
Zionslayer1

+Carina Kriessman , should I tell you what your pouty lips are telling me?

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Carina Kriessman
Carina Kriessman

I think you need to be checked out if body parts are speaking to you

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Delan Roof
Delan Roof

The title is surviving R kelly. He is being paid just for his stage name to be used. Open your eyes guys this is marketing

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Trisha Paytas Memes
Trisha Paytas Memes

Im only here from jesy Nelson. Anyone else?

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SOUTH SIDE DEE
SOUTH SIDE DEE

Y’all need to quit hatin

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Carina Kriessman
Carina Kriessman

Hating? Yeah, we hate him because he has a history of going after underage girls and predatory behavior.

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Glam Barbie
Glam Barbie

Any small or big Youtubers want to support each other?💖✨💜

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Sabrina Walker
Sabrina Walker

I dont watch these videos I mean from the picture of when y'all was together you dont look like that I mean were you hoping for his come up and now you look completely different and your making new records of old that could been reported years ago I mean it does seem to happen like especially when the people are exactly who they knew they would be

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THANOS
THANOS

People you need to stop living in "Your Truth" and see "The Truth"...I hear some many people completely reinterpret what they watched after watching this. documentary.

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David the Renaissance Man
David the Renaissance Man

Sooooo you're stupid. Now we ALL know. Thanks. Cause knowledge is power. G.I. JOOOEEEE!

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Alfonso Leal
Alfonso Leal

What happened with r Kelly why do people want him in jail???

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Carina Kriessman
Carina Kriessman

He has a history of going after underage girls, and has been found with child pornography but hasn't been put in jail.

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H S
H S

Allll these red flags and she stayed all those years. She obviously agreed to all of this idk what shes asking for now?

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Nikki Burris
Nikki Burris

⛔ Life Time Break the 🎤 Trin2Hyype aka J.B Hunt Jr "The Heir" true story... Where did the money come from & where did it go⬅

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romaleshawn
romaleshawn

Haven't seen this many black women fake crying in my life

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romaleshawn
romaleshawn

Good enough for you you shouldn't took the check

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0987754 9086
0987754 9086

But you still did it though....

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꧁Ms. Essance TV꧂
꧁Ms. Essance TV꧂

★ 🎀 𝐿💕𝓋𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓉❢ 𝐸𝓍𝒸𝑒𝓁𝓁𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓋𝒾𝒹𝑒😱❢ 🎀 ★

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Eli Cordero
Eli Cordero

In my opinion the reason why R.kelly is not incarcerated is because there's not enough evidence

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Eli Cordero
Eli Cordero

R.kelly has issues

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Eli Cordero
Eli Cordero

Me and my father saw this it was so sickening

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Blessings 777 777
Blessings 777 777

R.kelly is the talk of the devil. R.kelly is the devil himself. If the American government cannot put R. kelly in Jail then they are not doing their Job. R.kelly is not bigger than the law.

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Valentino Falcon
Valentino Falcon

NM,so true. Thank you

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C B
C B

Dirty player. Dirty Whores..takes 2 or as she says 3 to tango at the ripe age of 18. Bet she loves her 15 minutes of shame fame and herpes!

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Rendroc
Rendroc

She had to dodge a lot of pee I guess.

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itchyballszzz
itchyballszzz

Some Women lie about their age and cause us men to get in trouble. Men be careful!!

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Jason Peng
Jason Peng

if only they hadn't taken the hush money...you either get justice or money. you don't get both. the reason he aint in jail yet is legit cus people take hush money.

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Christopher Wesley
Christopher Wesley

Don't believe the hype, pay attention people for this one is an legend of real music but one whon signed an fame.....the realest Steph contract y

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David Gaugamela
David Gaugamela

How can I watch this full six-part documentary? Anyone know?

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Dany Deee
Dany Deee

I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but in this clip in a court of law there’s nothing wrong. She saw an openly placed camera and by the sounds of it consented to a threesome. Yes he manipulated her but psychological manipulation isn’t a crime.

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trinity williams
trinity williams

Where can I watch the full thing

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Mathers Davis
Mathers Davis

Ave come to accept that this stories are fake and someone oils the pockets, many men have had their careers ended just like that by some crazy story and its usually some of the best people around, if this isn't same script as MJ's then i dont know OJ too now its kelly soon they will pull the rug from under jayz's,kanye,RickRoss,lilwayne could be anybody all a while using gender violence as a weapon. THIS ARE ALL BUT PAID ACTORS. DONT CONDONE IT IT COULD BE YOU ON THE 6 O'CLOCK

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Eye Out Tongue Out
Eye Out Tongue Out

how come she didn't speak out before

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Travis Heinze
Travis Heinze

I don't see any problems here except for the fact that Lisa got fat and probably no longer sexually attractive. This is why the sugar industry needs to be outlawed.

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mhamadac
mhamadac

you made a fortune living with him tho.... so yeah... you were "part of the problem"

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Lacristee Thompson
Lacristee Thompson

I have a question🙋‍♀️ Now, what if things would’ve turned out with R. Kelly being her husband, and she was the only one. Would she be mad at him? Would she even be talking or crying?

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Playhouse Multimedia
Playhouse Multimedia

You was a groupie n yo momma ddn know

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Nill Gddy
Nill Gddy

I dont believe a word you say

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Techno sailor
Techno sailor

Why are women such drones jesus. Stand up for yourselves

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1981yama
1981yama

Fat lair

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Lindsay Sundefreelancewriting
Lindsay  Sundefreelancewriting

Yuk

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David Lewis
David Lewis

What about Birdman Puffy Jay z them nights pedos too

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Bilboy tumishang
Bilboy tumishang

Now all you R kelly exes survived him

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Renez
Renez

So MANY comments. Where were the PARENTS? What ACTIONS did the PARENTS take to hold Kelly responsible. THOSE kids parents are on the same level as Kelly. MONEY talked, allowing BULLSH*T to walk.

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Annie Oglesby
Annie Oglesby

She just got played and R.Kelly dump her. These girl where legally age.

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Bynez
Bynez

?? I don't understand the issues? She could leave at any point right?

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Hooligan
Hooligan

Drip drip drip

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Alilruthless
Alilruthless

I do gotta say though that background music makes for some real great compelling tv.

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vivianna hinks
vivianna hinks

The guy thought he cud fly for God's sake...jus step in the name of love. Meanwhile there r very real things going on like global water crisis and starvation. Plus my phone company doesn't always give me what I paid for.

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Candise Ellis
Candise Ellis

I see so many comments and so many truly upset people saying R Kelly should be in prison...and I agree..he should be ...along with Lisa...his entire camp who knew what was going on..and the parents of this 13 year old child who was raped by Kelly and Lisa...unfortunely he was the only one brought to trial and was acquitted because the girls parents said it was not her..even though her auntie and others clearly identified her. Now after all these years not one of these young women or his ex wife ever pressed criminal charges...so what is he going to jail for?

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Maria Fletcher
Maria Fletcher

it's about time

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NPC 2845
NPC 2845

Well, at least he’s not a cuck.

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key Fullington
key Fullington

wtf was her mom at

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BlueMidnight
BlueMidnight

She really suspect

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Melody McKenzie
Melody McKenzie

Sad part is everyone played a roll in his evil plans, his staff and the accusers parents.. Seems like as long as that check was cut no one cared... And now that the emotional weight is taking a toll everyone wants justice... He should have been stopped.. Period.

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BriEnne Logan
BriEnne Logan

kelly would not have been able o do this had their parents no given permission PERIOD

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B FIG
B FIG

*What Lifetime & Lisa Van Allen didn't tell you. From the court room...She received immunity from the state's attorney and U.S. attorney for any crimes she might have committed aka child molestation & extortion*

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Boom
Boom

Why do people say 17 is a little girl but a year later they’re a grown women lolol. I’m no pedo that’s just funny lmao

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Typical Waves
Typical Waves

R kelly all the way ama right guys

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Worldsmasterof spirits Spiritseekerscanada tm*
Worldsmasterof spirits Spiritseekerscanada tm*

THYFOUNDINGFATHER Gsc ssc worldsmasterof spirits spiritseekerscananda tm * And this is what happens when you live a sinful life,,,

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Joel Cohen
Joel Cohen

Sounds very consensual.

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Linda Flagg, MA, BCPCLC
Linda Flagg, MA, BCPCLC

Pray For R. Kelly: God we ask You in Jesus’ name that You will touch R. (Robert) Kelly and save, heal, deliver, and set him free. God he needs help.  He needs You.  God do the inner-healing in his life that is  needed. Show him, himself and show him the areas You God want to work on in his life.  Show him where he is wrong. Let him not harden his heart, but be open for the inner-healing, deliverance, and the great things You want to do for him and in his life. Let R. Kelly partner with You (his Savior and Lord) and work on these areas. Bless him to become all You created him to be and nothing less. God use R. Kelly for Your glory and good pleasure. God all that we have asked of You in this prayer, please do the same for everyone who prays this prayer over R. Kelly’s life and every Christian that I know. But God most importantly, save, heal deliver, and set free eachand every man, woman, and child (including his children) he has hurt in any way, shape or form. God we all need more of You. Bless each of us with more of You.  Help us all Lord Jesus. Thank You. Amen, so be it, and it is so.

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Doctor Mashigo
Doctor Mashigo

So tell us about the shopping days, your birthdays, mmmmmm i dont stand with R but there got to be good times

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Kiko Dimo
Kiko Dimo

Thats not what a “Runner” means but IGHT

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Keeping up with the Joneses
Keeping up with the Joneses

I want to know is Lisa Van Allen going to be charged as well because she's admitting she participated ijs!!!

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Irk Me
Irk Me

Selling my mask two for one.

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Katrina Williams
Katrina Williams

President Trump was doing the same thing has done the same thing whatever you may call it it's wrong that R Kelly is doing it but I do not like that you guys elected a guy who did the same thing you guys not black balling everything he's doing and I just upfront do not believe some of these women as a victim myself I will never turn my back on someone who is speaking out but some of these allegations are just crazy not speaking on her documentary or this particular film

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ThematicMuzik
ThematicMuzik

She’s pretty

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hazel goodshepherd
hazel goodshepherd

Pretty thottish.

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Spanish Montana
Spanish Montana

That lady knew he liked young girls so she introduced him to her 14 year old niece, I feel sorry for the girl but the lady clearly pimped her out...she should go jail too

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YonI
YonI

Parents are the ones to blame for what happened to this kids, they let this guy do whatever for money or what

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DerkuiDerkui
DerkuiDerkui

Why hasn't Chris from Dateline go after this guy?

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